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		<title>By: Epiphora</title>
		<link>http://askgarnet.com/2009/12/20/but-im-not-a-rapist/comment-page-1/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>Epiphora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, *I* think this post is fabulous. Especially this:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Instead of being offended and throwing up a wall, be shocked by the statement, understand it, and work to change it.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And the last paragraph is perfect. Just perfect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, *I* think this post is fabulous. Especially this:</p>
<p><i>Instead of being offended and throwing up a wall, be shocked by the statement, understand it, and work to change it.</i></p>
<p>And the last paragraph is perfect. Just perfect.</p>
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		<title>By: Garnet Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garnet Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drue, I agree that we need to acknowledge those that are helping to change things and are breaking the mold. That is why I quoted my friend Steve in the piece and why almost all of the resource links I provided are male led groups. My hope is that more men will join these types of groups and realize all the ways in which they can help. If you can somehow watch Tough Guise I really really recommend it. I tried embedding the video in the comments but I can&#039;t. So go to my link for it and watch the trailer. Its good stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drue, I agree that we need to acknowledge those that are helping to change things and are breaking the mold. That is why I quoted my friend Steve in the piece and why almost all of the resource links I provided are male led groups. My hope is that more men will join these types of groups and realize all the ways in which they can help. If you can somehow watch Tough Guise I really really recommend it. I tried embedding the video in the comments but I can&#39;t. So go to my link for it and watch the trailer. Its good stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: DruePhoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>DruePhoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 21:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah I actually agree with you Garnet, I realized today that I probably did a lousy job articulating my thoughts last night. I certainly don&#039;t think we should ignore the here and now causes and symptoms of violence, caused by societal and familial influences and all the other ones that are too numerous to list right now. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do think though that the progress that has been made with bringing various people of all kinds that are seeing things in a more... shall we say &quot;enlightened&quot; way, should be acknowledged when we do refer to people as a whole.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Absolutes can be useful for arguments sake, but just like we shouldn&#039;t ignore the problems, we also shouldn&#039;t ignore the progress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I of course need to do some more reading... I&#039;ll visit my mom and peruse her many bookshelves of material on the subjects :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I actually agree with you Garnet, I realized today that I probably did a lousy job articulating my thoughts last night. I certainly don&#39;t think we should ignore the here and now causes and symptoms of violence, caused by societal and familial influences and all the other ones that are too numerous to list right now. </p>
<p>I do think though that the progress that has been made with bringing various people of all kinds that are seeing things in a more&#8230; shall we say &quot;enlightened&quot; way, should be acknowledged when we do refer to people as a whole.</p>
<p>Absolutes can be useful for arguments sake, but just like we shouldn&#39;t ignore the problems, we also shouldn&#39;t ignore the progress.</p>
<p>I of course need to do some more reading&#8230; I&#39;ll visit my mom and peruse her many bookshelves of material on the subjects :)</p>
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		<title>By: Garnet Joyce</title>
		<link>http://askgarnet.com/2009/12/20/but-im-not-a-rapist/comment-page-1/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Garnet Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 16:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drue I understand where you&#039;re coming from, but I have to disagree. I think by erasing the fact that men commit most violent crime, we&#039;re erasing &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt; they commit the crimes. And here I&#039;m talking about more than just rape, but violent crimes in general. One of the things that needs to change is how society defines masculinity. As it is now, violence and anger are masculine. Caring and nurturing are feminine. Why does masculinity have to be the opposite of femininity?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Some of the most exciting work in feminism (both from men and women) right now is on defining a new radical masculinity. Still staying true to having differences between masculinity and femininity (although not specifically tied to biological sexes), but redefining what those things mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drue I understand where you&#39;re coming from, but I have to disagree. I think by erasing the fact that men commit most violent crime, we&#39;re erasing <i>why</i> they commit the crimes. And here I&#39;m talking about more than just rape, but violent crimes in general. One of the things that needs to change is how society defines masculinity. As it is now, violence and anger are masculine. Caring and nurturing are feminine. Why does masculinity have to be the opposite of femininity?</p>
<p>Some of the most exciting work in feminism (both from men and women) right now is on defining a new radical masculinity. Still staying true to having differences between masculinity and femininity (although not specifically tied to biological sexes), but redefining what those things mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Weaselheadx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weaselheadx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of people lack perspective. Sure, we are all selfish in our own ways, it&#039;s a form of survival instinct. But a lot of people don&#039;t even seem to try to get it. You can&#039;t go through life treating everyone exactly the same. We build expectattions from one another as we interact. For a woman to be wary of men is only natural. Hell, it&#039;s natural to be wary of anyone. Like anything, there is a healthy level of this and unhealthy one. If you go extreme and become this agorophobic type of person, that&#039;s not healthy. But equally unhealthy is not being wary at all. I&#039;m not saying an unwary victim is at fault, not at all, it&#039;s just that I believe it is healthy to be wary to some extent. As a friend of many women, I do treat them differently. I don&#039;t think this is sexist, it&#039;s just an extention of this same wariness. For example, say a female friend and a male friend go with me to a bar. We all get pretty sloshed. I will be much more concerned that the female gets home safely than the male. Ideally, everyone does, but I am much more wary for the female. Sexual assault is all too real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of people lack perspective. Sure, we are all selfish in our own ways, it&#39;s a form of survival instinct. But a lot of people don&#39;t even seem to try to get it. You can&#39;t go through life treating everyone exactly the same. We build expectattions from one another as we interact. For a woman to be wary of men is only natural. Hell, it&#39;s natural to be wary of anyone. Like anything, there is a healthy level of this and unhealthy one. If you go extreme and become this agorophobic type of person, that&#39;s not healthy. But equally unhealthy is not being wary at all. I&#39;m not saying an unwary victim is at fault, not at all, it&#39;s just that I believe it is healthy to be wary to some extent. As a friend of many women, I do treat them differently. I don&#39;t think this is sexist, it&#39;s just an extention of this same wariness. For example, say a female friend and a male friend go with me to a bar. We all get pretty sloshed. I will be much more concerned that the female gets home safely than the male. Ideally, everyone does, but I am much more wary for the female. Sexual assault is all too real.</p>
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		<title>By: DruePhoenix</title>
		<link>http://askgarnet.com/2009/12/20/but-im-not-a-rapist/comment-page-1/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>DruePhoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that popped into my head as I read everyone&#039;s back and forth, from blog to blog to blog.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;If we&#039;re all for equality, shouldn&#039;t we go out of our way to change it to any &lt;i&gt;person&lt;/i&gt; is a potential rapist? While yes statistics, however flawed their sampling base may be(considering how little is actually reported, by any type of sexual assault victim) do show that men are the large majority of the offenders, I feel that this brings up one thing that has always annoyed me about feminism.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That it&#039;s inherently not an equalist ideology. In the end, and I am generalizing here. I do get the feeling, especially as a male raised by feminists, that I am often unfairly prejudged as guilty until proven innocent. Not of course on par with a lot of the more severe stuff that goes on out there, but it is still somewhat hypocritical in my opinion.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Living in fear is a symptom of a flawed society, just like the disturbing lack of public anger and outcry when it comes to the scope and frequency of sexual assaults of all kinds.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I believe it is allowed for me as a man to be offended still to say that I, as a member of this group of those with Y chromosomes, I very well could be a racist. Not only to say that me saying &quot;well I&#039;m not a racist&quot; but to assume that means since I am not myself a rapist, that the world of rape does not touch my life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I grew up with many women in my life, I have always naturally been more comfortable with them, and I am someone who has had a large number of very close friends or family members assaulted, and to feel this... helplessness and anger and all the other feelings I could never put into words. I don&#039;t say that I suffer even the tiniest fraction that they do themselves, there&#039;s no way I could do any more than empathize without first hand experience myself. It effects us too, many of us are raised to not see these things happening in the world, to not feel the wounds inflicted on those we love, but it is not all of us. The beauty and tragedy of humanity lies in our differences, it comes out to both extremes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Sure, if we want to generalize we could say any person is a potential rapist, or murderer, or embezzler, or terrorist... or humanitarian, or savior, or friend, or anything at all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I agree to a point with the second to last paragraph. We do need a change, mindsets need to shift and reality needs to come into focus for more of us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But some already do see these things, men and women. I think that point is lost on many people...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(It&#039;s late, so please excuse any lack of eloquence.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that popped into my head as I read everyone&#39;s back and forth, from blog to blog to blog.</p>
<p>If we&#39;re all for equality, shouldn&#39;t we go out of our way to change it to any <i>person</i> is a potential rapist? While yes statistics, however flawed their sampling base may be(considering how little is actually reported, by any type of sexual assault victim) do show that men are the large majority of the offenders, I feel that this brings up one thing that has always annoyed me about feminism.</p>
<p>That it&#39;s inherently not an equalist ideology. In the end, and I am generalizing here. I do get the feeling, especially as a male raised by feminists, that I am often unfairly prejudged as guilty until proven innocent. Not of course on par with a lot of the more severe stuff that goes on out there, but it is still somewhat hypocritical in my opinion.</p>
<p>Living in fear is a symptom of a flawed society, just like the disturbing lack of public anger and outcry when it comes to the scope and frequency of sexual assaults of all kinds.</p>
<p>I believe it is allowed for me as a man to be offended still to say that I, as a member of this group of those with Y chromosomes, I very well could be a racist. Not only to say that me saying &quot;well I&#39;m not a racist&quot; but to assume that means since I am not myself a rapist, that the world of rape does not touch my life.</p>
<p>I grew up with many women in my life, I have always naturally been more comfortable with them, and I am someone who has had a large number of very close friends or family members assaulted, and to feel this&#8230; helplessness and anger and all the other feelings I could never put into words. I don&#39;t say that I suffer even the tiniest fraction that they do themselves, there&#39;s no way I could do any more than empathize without first hand experience myself. It effects us too, many of us are raised to not see these things happening in the world, to not feel the wounds inflicted on those we love, but it is not all of us. The beauty and tragedy of humanity lies in our differences, it comes out to both extremes.</p>
<p>Sure, if we want to generalize we could say any person is a potential rapist, or murderer, or embezzler, or terrorist&#8230; or humanitarian, or savior, or friend, or anything at all.</p>
<p>I agree to a point with the second to last paragraph. We do need a change, mindsets need to shift and reality needs to come into focus for more of us.</p>
<p>But some already do see these things, men and women. I think that point is lost on many people&#8230;</p>
<p>(It&#39;s late, so please excuse any lack of eloquence.)</p>
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		<title>By: Garnet Joyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garnet Joyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Britni: I love Yes Means Yes! My boss at Early to Bed gave us all a copy for the holidays last year (one of my coworkers wrote an essay in it). That book is just fantastic. If you haven&#039;t read the whole thing you really really should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Britni: I love Yes Means Yes! My boss at Early to Bed gave us all a copy for the holidays last year (one of my coworkers wrote an essay in it). That book is just fantastic. If you haven&#39;t read the whole thing you really really should.</p>
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		<title>By: champagneandbenzedrine</title>
		<link>http://askgarnet.com/2009/12/20/but-im-not-a-rapist/comment-page-1/#comment-159</link>
		<dc:creator>champagneandbenzedrine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t speak for hubman, but women considering men as potential rapists isn&#039;t what upset me about Britni&#039;s post - it was the statement &#039;all men ARE potential rapists.&#039;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I understand that it&#039;s just clumsy wording, meant to imply that &#039;any man could potentially be a rapist&#039; and not &#039;all men are capable of potentially raping somebody&#039; but if that&#039;s the case why don&#039;t THEY JUST SAY IT.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Britni was also angry and wrote that &#039;all&#039; men victimize and abuse women, which is offensive to men who don&#039;t victimize and abuse women.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Feminists need to ditch the &#039;all men are potential rapists&#039; and change it to &#039;a potential rapist could be any man&#039; because otherwise men are going to continue shutting their ears to their very valid concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#39;t speak for hubman, but women considering men as potential rapists isn&#39;t what upset me about Britni&#39;s post &#8211; it was the statement &#39;all men ARE potential rapists.&#39;</p>
<p>I understand that it&#39;s just clumsy wording, meant to imply that &#39;any man could potentially be a rapist&#39; and not &#39;all men are capable of potentially raping somebody&#39; but if that&#39;s the case why don&#39;t THEY JUST SAY IT.</p>
<p>Britni was also angry and wrote that &#39;all&#39; men victimize and abuse women, which is offensive to men who don&#39;t victimize and abuse women.</p>
<p>Feminists need to ditch the &#39;all men are potential rapists&#39; and change it to &#39;a potential rapist could be any man&#39; because otherwise men are going to continue shutting their ears to their very valid concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hubman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can construct all of the arguments you want, if you call me a potential rapist solely because of my sex, I&#039;ll continue to be offended.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now if you say &quot;any man could be a rapist&quot;, THAT I understand.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But to say that every man is a potential rapist, as Britni originally phrased it, bothers me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can construct all of the arguments you want, if you call me a potential rapist solely because of my sex, I&#39;ll continue to be offended.</p>
<p>Now if you say &quot;any man could be a rapist&quot;, THAT I understand.</p>
<p>But to say that every man is a potential rapist, as Britni originally phrased it, bothers me.</p>
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		<title>By: Britni TheVadgeWig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Britni TheVadgeWig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 02:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo. I agree 100%. In fact, I&#039;m considering doing a post in which I write down every time I&#039;m sexually assaulted, harassed, or violated over the course of a few days. Every time I&#039;m groped, the subject of catcalls, inappropriately hit on, inappropriately ogled. I want to put, in writing, all of the times over the course of a day that I go through this.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I wrote a post on my blog a while back about &quot;Not Rape.&quot; It was based on an article that I had found and I think it does a good job of discussing what you&#039;re trying to relate about your experience with sexual assault. It&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.racialicious.com/2008/12/21/original-essay-the-not-rape-epidemic/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo. I agree 100%. In fact, I&#39;m considering doing a post in which I write down every time I&#39;m sexually assaulted, harassed, or violated over the course of a few days. Every time I&#39;m groped, the subject of catcalls, inappropriately hit on, inappropriately ogled. I want to put, in writing, all of the times over the course of a day that I go through this.</p>
<p>I wrote a post on my blog a while back about &quot;Not Rape.&quot; It was based on an article that I had found and I think it does a good job of discussing what you&#39;re trying to relate about your experience with sexual assault. It&#39;s <a href="http://www.racialicious.com/2008/12/21/original-essay-the-not-rape-epidemic/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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